Drop when you shop?

Watching BBC News, which is pitching a 'brilliant idea' to deal with plastics recycling: the introduction of a 10p deposit on bottles.

Now, while I am not sure this hasn't been mooted before, I look forward to the details as it seems fine in principle. Trouble is, as of 7.09am the detail is a bit shy. In fact all we do know is there is some resistance (yay!..controversy!), and 'the food and drinks industry has yet to comment'.

I'd also be interested in comment from retailers and the authorities, as to work there needs to be a bunch of new relationships and logistical routes established.

Because at the very least, when you take your bottle of HDPE 37 to the till, it will need to be identified, stored and then transported. And you will need to engage in a financial transaction (receipt...VAT... tax???).

It has been done, and seemed to work before. I recall collecting cans and bottles for pocket money (maybe getting the community on board... for money... would be a plan? Junkk.com stands ready to help).

But on past and present evidence, why do I see this as a quick, flip punt by the media on a few-day 'eco-issue', with a benign nod from the authorities as it takes the pressure off all their failings to sort things out.

Addendum - 7.41am

'Experts' Neil Hamilton (green sceptic) and the BBC's Newsnight Ethical Man and now One Show reporter Justin Rowlatt 'debate' the issue. Er... one says it's a daft idea and one says it isn't. Big surprise: an extremes twofer. I continue to await the detail on... HOW IT WILL WORK.

At least... by the end the consensus had admitted that the variety of plastics was not, as such, exactly helping the enviROI. In fact the only clear winner, and reason for it all, seemed to be the anti-litter brigade. Seems a lot of money and unclear systems being alluded in going to help reduce a target... if a worthy one.

Still nobody who knows anything tangible about the issue to be seen or heard.

Newsnight - Are supermarkets to blame?

This morning, on BBC Breakfast TV, there was a piece about a proposal to bring back the deposit system, this time with plastic bottles.

At least we now have two protagonists how might be able to shine a tad more informed light on the issue beyond 'experts' Neil Hamilton (green sceptic) and ex-Ethical Man and now One Show reporter Justin Rowlatt, who 'debated' the issue. That is... one said it's a daft idea and one said it isn't. Big surprise: an extremes twofer. I continue to await the detail on... HOW IT WILL WORK?

Now, accepting that this has been mooted before, I look forward to the details promised earlier, as it seems fine in principle. All I have so far is that there is some resistance (yay!..controversy!), and 'the food and drinks industry has yet to comment'.

So I am interested in answers from retailers and the authorities, who are even more at the coalface of this proposal (being where we consumers come in and who ends up with what we drop off) as to what there is in place... and needs to be doen in getting a bunch of new relationships and logistical routes established.

Because at the very least, when you take your bottle of HDPE 37 and 3/4 to the till, it will need to be identified, assessed, separated, stored and then transported (at what enviROI?). And will you then need to engage in a financial transaction (receipt...VAT... tax???).

It has been done, and seemed to work before. I recall collecting cans and bottles (what about metal and glass?) for pocket money (maybe getting the community on board... for money (if this stuff has value, then let's share the end-benefits:)... would be a plan? My organisation stands ready to help).

But on past and present evidence, why do I see this as a quick, flip punt by the media on a few-day 'eco-issue', with a benign nod from the authorities as it takes the pressure off all their failings to sort things out in the totality of the whole recycling chain?

PRW - UK litter campaigners want 10p deposit on plastic bottles - I am not sure saying 'it's going to make our lives difficult/expensive' is the stance I would have adopted, mind.

PRW - Bill Bryson's deposit plan fails to sway drink makers - Well, hardly unexpected, really.

117 April, 17.44 - Newsnight - just watched the piece with Justin King and the Govt. Minister. Not sure any questions posed on the blog were actually shared. Nor any answers given. Mr. Paxman gave all sides a pretty tough time, and there were a few occasions when Sainsbury's could have spun a better tale, but the key questions on what, when and how we get our stuff recycled here...woeful.

The new blog posting system is also in, and it does look like a great improvement. No more 502 Errors, but a lot of BIG issues taking over.